'He's willing to do whatever it takes': Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney says Trump IS willing to shutdown the government again in three weeks to secure the border
- Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said President Trump is willing to shut down the government again in three weeks
- 'Yeah I think he actually is. Keep in mind he's willing to do whatever it takes to secure the border,' he said on CBS' 'Face the Nation'
- Trump signed a bill Friday to reopen the government for three weeks
- Mulvaney said he thinks negotiations will be different in 21 days because, he claims, the White House has heard from Democrats who support a barrier
- He also said furloughed federal workers should get their backpay this week
- Mulvaney wouldn't get into specifics of what Trump would demand and refused to say if the president would take less than the $5.7 billion needed for his wall
- 'This is not something where the president's married to a number, he's married to border security,' he said on 'Fox News Sunday'
By Emily Goodin, U.s. Political Reporter For Dailymail.com
Published: 10:57 EST, 27 January 2019 | Updated: 17:22 EST, 27 January 2019
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said President Donald Trump is willing to shut down the government again in three weeks in order to secure the border.
'Yeah I think he actually is. Keep in mind he's willing to do whatever it takes to secure the border. He does take this very seriously,' Mulvaney said Sunday on CBS' 'Face the Nation.'
'This is a serious humanitarian and security crisis, and as President of the United States, he takes the security of the nation as his highest priority. He doesn't want to shut the government down. Let's make that very clear. He doesn't want to declare national emergency. What he wants to do is fix this the way things are supposed to get fixed with our government, which is through legislation,' he added.
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said President Donald Trump is willing to shutdown the government again in three weeks in order to secure the border
President Donald Trump announced on Friday a deal to end the 35-day government shutdown
His words of warning come after the end of a 35-day government shutdown - the longest in American history - that saw 800,000 furloughed federal workers go two pay periods with blank paychecks and a string of cutbacks in federal services that resulted in photos of overflowing trash cans in national parks and flight delays in airports due to a shortage in workers.
Trump signed a bill Friday to reopen the government for three weeks, backing down from his demand that Congress give him $5.7 billion for his border wall before federal agencies get back to work.
Mulvaney said Trump's action will get 800,000 furloughed workers their two missed paychecks this coming week.
'Some of them could be early this week. Some of them may be later this week, but we hope that by the end of this week all of the back pay will be we'll be made up,' he said on CBS News.
The acting White House chief of staff refused to get into specifics of what Trump will demand when both sides return to the negotiating table this week to work out a longterm funding plan to see the government fully funded through the next fiscal year.
Legislation passed by the Senate and House Friday night - and quickly signed by Trump - funds the government through Feb. 15. It also creates a bipartisan, bicameral committee charged with negotiating an agreement on border security as part of a new spending bill for the Homeland Security Department.
Mulvaney refused to answer whether or not Trump would take less than the $5.7 billion he demanded as his original price to reopen the government - the amount he needs to build a border wall.
'This is not something where the president's married to a number, he's married to border security,' he said on 'Fox News Sunday.'
'The president's commitment is to defend the nation, and he will do it either with or without Congress,' he noted.
Republican lawmakers making the Sunday show rounds did not sound enthusiastic about the idea of another government shutdown.
House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy (left) said the shutdown resulted in the status quo while Republican Sen. Susan Collins (right) said nothing good came out of it
Republican Senators Roy Blunt (left) and Marco Rubio (right) both cautioned the president against using a national emergency to get funds for his wall
'Nobody likes to go into a shutdown. But the one thing I would see, especially if you're looking at winners and losers, I don't know why someone would celebrate a status quo,' said House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy on NBC's 'Meet the Press.'
Moderate GOP Sen. Susan Collins said 'nothing' good came out of the shutdown.
'I would say absolutely nothing,' she told CBS' 'Face the Nation.' 'Shutdowns are never good policy, ever. They are never to be used as a means to achieve any kind of goal no matter how important that goal may seem to be. They are ineffective, they cause tremendous harm to innocent federal employees and their families who are struggling to pay their bills without paychecks.'
Two other Republican senators cautioned the president about using a national emergency declaration to get the funds to build his wall.
'I think it's a bad precedent. I hope the president doesn't have to go there. If we'll do our job, he won't even have to consider going there three weeks from now,' said Sen. Roy Blunt on 'Fox News Sunday.'
'I don't think it's a good idea. I think it'll be a terrible idea. I hope he doesn't do it,' Sen. Marco Rubio said on NBC's 'Meet the Press.' He said he would 'fight' the president on the idea but added: 'I don't think we'll have to fight because I'm not sure they'll end up doing that.'
Democrats, meanwhile, have refused to give the president the money he needs to build a wall.
Mulvaney said he thinks negotiations will be different in 21 days because, he claims, the White House has heard from Democrats who support them on building a barrier on the border.
'So many of them had come to us and said, you know what, we think you might be right on this barrier thing, but we cannot negotiate with you during a shutdown. We don't like the fact that a president might use a shutdown as a negotiating tool, so if you open the government up, we'll negotiate with you in good faith on a border barrier. Now is their chance to do that,' he said on CBS News.
Mick Mulvaney told CBS News he thinks negotiations will be different in 21 days because, he claims, the White House has heard from Democrats who support a barrier
On 'Fox News Sunday,' Mulvaney wouldn't say if Trump would take less than the $5.7 billion needed to build his border wall
Mulvaney specifically named Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin and Rep. James Clyburn, the Number Three Democrat in the House, as one says they would support a border wall.
'Dick Durbin publicly said we'll have some walls in the future. Jim Clyburn, my former colleague from South Carolina, said if you could convince him the experts said we needed a border barrier, he would vote for that. So many, many Democrats, dozens have come out over the last couple weeks to say, you know what, this crisis is real. Let's figure out a way to do it properly, but we can't do with it the government closed. What you saw this week was the president take them at their word and say, okay. You all said you want to do this. Let's give it a shot and see if over the next three weeks we can do this the right way and pass legislation to fund the government and secure the border,' he noted.
He also warned House Democrats of the political dangers of following Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
'Keep in mind the last time the Democrats sort of follow Nancy Pelosi blindly down a path on policy, we ended up with Obamacare and bailouts and cap and trade, they lost control of the House,' Mulvaney said on 'Fox News Sunday.'
'So, the question is, is Nancy really leading the Democratic Party, or is she just being led by the hard left wing of her party, and will the rest of the Democrats follow her?'
Pelosi was speaker of the House in March 2010 when the President Barack Obama signed his signature healthcare bill into law after it was pushed through Congress in a close, divisive vote.
The Democrats took a beating in the November elections that year. Republicans picked up 60 House seats and retook control of the lower chamber in a victory Obama called 'a shellacking' for his party.
The acting White House chief of staff did say the president wants his wall fully funded.
The president pounded home his desire for more border security on Twitter Sunday morning.
He claimed illegal immigration was costing the country tens of billions of dollars a month and millions of illegals had flooded the country, although it was unclear where he got his figures.
'We are not even into February and the cost of illegal immigration so far this year is $18,959,495,168. Cost Friday was $603,331,392. There are at least 25,772,342 illegal aliens, not the 11,000,000 that have been reported for years, in our Country. So ridiculous! DHS,' he tweeted.
Roughly 11 million illegals are estimated to be living in the United States.
Asked about the 25,772,342 illegal immigrants Trump claimed, Mulvaney said he did not know where the president was getting his information.
But he argued the number has to be larger than 11 million because of the numbers of migrants who cross into the U.S. each month.
'We know for example that 60,000 new illegals are coming across each month for the last three months. Again a number that is not made up. That is a real number. So we know the number has to be larger than 11 million,' he said on 'Face the Nation.'
'I'm not exactly sure where the president got that number this morning,' he added.
He also said Sunday morning he thinks the president wants his wall fully funded.
'I think the president wants his $5.7 billion. Keep in mind, why is that number? It's not a number that's made up. It's what the experts have told him,' he said on 'Fox News Sunday.'
'The president from the very beginning here actually has been the one willing to negotiate. He was the one staying in Washington, D.C., when Nancy went to Hawaii. He's the one who stayed in D.C. when Democrats all went down to Puerto Rico. He was in D.C., which he tried to leave to go to Europe and the Middle East last week. He wants to negotiate on the deal. The Democrat leadership simply refused to take him up on that,' he added.
President Trump tweeted new immigration numbers Sunday morning but it's unclear where he received his data
Mulvaney warned Democrats to be careful following Speaker Nancy Pelosi
President Donald Trump, speaking in the Rose Garden on Friday, made it clear he wants his border wall
Mulvaney also said Cabinet agencies followed the president's directive to search for money to come up with the $5.7 billion needed and that they wound more than that in their coffers.
'More than $5.7 billion. The president told us several months ago to try to find money in every nook and cranny, he told every member of the cabinet to do the exact same. OMB has been working on this for several months now and there's a lot more than a $5.7 billion,' he said.
He noted the White House would prefer to 'get it through legislation. That's the right way to do it, but at the end of the day, the president is going to secure the border one way or another.'
Trump, on Friday, also said he wants his wall.
'Let me be very clear: We really have no choice but to build a powerful wall or steel barrier. If we don't get a fair deal from Congress, the government will either shut down on February 15th, again, or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the Constitution of the United States to address this emergency,' he said during lengthy remarks in the White House Rose Garden.
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